10/14/09 Freedom Watch 45 w/ John Tamney, Ron Paul
John Tamney on the truth behind government health care:
Ron Paul responds to Lindsey Graham’s comments:
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KBCraig Said,
October 15, 2009 @ 7:24 am
Wayne Allyn Root = Max Headroom
Except, with more teeth, and less substance.
poq Said,
October 15, 2009 @ 9:04 am
Stop putting Wayne Allyn Root on the show, he's terrible. So was that Rush segment, cmon Judge! That's sideshow fluff material, not worthy of Freedom Watch. Not to mention you were both fundamentally wrong on the issue.
The NFL is a business, in a capitalistic society they have the right to run their business how they like. It makes sense for them to bar a controversial figure from buying a team. They're trying to make money from the most people they possibly can. Why on earth would they want to jeopardize that goal by allowing someone as divisive as Rush Limbaugh to own one of the teams? This is not a freedom of speech issue. Rush can say whatever he wants. He's being barred from a private organization, not a government one.
The other interviews were great. Once again stop wasting airtime on Root, and frivolous limbaugh nothings.
Robert Taylor Said,
October 15, 2009 @ 8:54 pm
POQ is incorrect, especially from a libertarian viewpoint. I don't personally care who owns what NFL team, but when someone who wishes to use their freedom to purchase goods, services or a team and is attacked by racist, collectivist individuals because he shares many libertarian ideas, as indeed Rush does in many areas, then the racists in our society such as Sharpton and many liberals (who don't seem to see anything except through tinted lens)are given a free pass. We as libertarians should judge those actions and pronounce them as racist. Not to do so would be to condone irrationality.
Don't forget, most libertarians today are considered "controversial" and "frivolous". Just because business (i.e. capitalism) is the only moral and ethical economic system in man's history doesn't mean we shouldn't utilize our frontal lobes to evaluate the factors behind any given economic decision. This was an irrational decision on the part of the NFL Commissioner, Rush's "partners" and most of all on the part of the collectivists who created the issue, to-wit: certain NFL players, the players union and Al Sharpton.
poq Said,
October 16, 2009 @ 1:46 am
Sorry Robert, but that was rabid nonsense. Let me break it down. Is the NFL a private business? Yes. Do they have to accept all business offers? No. Case closed.
Whether or not there were ideological motives or racist statements made by either party, that is irrelevant. If I think someone is bad for my business I'm not going to allow them to run one of my franchises. Simple as that. Do you believe the libertarian thing to do is to force the NFL to accept his offer?
Rush can use his freedom to make an offer, the NFL owners can use their freedom to deny it. If Rush feels he's been slandered he can sue for defamation. They don't have the right to spread lies. That still doesn't mean the NFL has to accept his offer though Listen, there's so many more pressing issues that need to be discussed and brought to light by the Judge. So many more liberty candidates to introduce and promote and It just really frustrates me to see so much ado about nothing there are dire things events of importance going on.
Take it easy Robert and don't get sidetracked by the sideshow.
poq Said,
October 16, 2009 @ 1:51 am
Sorry Robert, but that was rabid nonsense. Let me break it down. Is the NFL a private business? Yes. Do they have to accept all business offers? No. Case closed.
Whether or not there were ideological motives or racist statements made by either party, that is irrelevant. If I think someone is bad for my business I'm not going to allow them to run one of my franchises. Simple as that. Do you believe the libertarian thing to do is force the NFL to accept his offer? Rush can use his freedom to make an offer, the NFL owners can use their freedom to deny it. If Rush feels he's been slandered he can sue for defamation. They don't have the right to spread lies about him. That still doesn't mean the NFL has to accept his offer though.
Listen, there's so many more pressing issues that need to be discussed and brought to light by the Judge. So many more liberty candidates to introduce and promote and It just really frustrates me to see so much ado about nothing. There are dire events of importance going on and no time for petty stories like this.
Take it easy Robert and don't get sidetracked by the sideshow.
Robert Taylor Said,
October 16, 2009 @ 11:49 am
POQ, as Reasgan used to say, there you go again. Your attempting, but failing, to make this a sideshow when it is truly a central event. You, as most liberals do, are trying to create a strawman by putting words in my mouth. Where, just where, did I imply the use of force? I didn't. I'll type slow and use smaller words. I said I didn't care who buys a team(it's still there for you to re-read and digest). Stop utilizing the left's tactics of stating something that's not true. That's beneath you, if you are truly libertarian in your thinking (which I'm beginning to doubt). I thought freedom to offer to buy or sell was basic to libertarian thought. The vendor or vendee is free not to accept. If you refuse to pick and choose what you consider "important" enough to judge…that's your choice. In fact, you can "take it so easy" that you opt not to appraise anything unless it meats your standards of what's critical and what isn't. I, as I'm sure many libertarians (the Judge included) deem this important.